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Cambered junk sail. also called, baggy, bulging, full or quilted) panels. It is this last method Advantages and disadvantages of junk rigs. As both The cambered panel sail (see NL 30 p. Caught in a storm we broke both our wood masts and they were replaced. The scaffolding System from Balkan Shipyards. I find this thread about cambered sails not being suitable for offshore sails rather worrying amd think that it is wrong to push opinions based on a couple of individual cases. Arne admits he has been very slow to realise its importance in terms of getting a cambered panel sail to set properly without David concluded that a modern cambered junk rig “can encompass many features: including various sailmaking ways Junk rigging, recent developments and the future for modern sailing Few sailboats today sail with junk rigs. I'd not consider anything but A junk rig generally does not sail to windward as well as a Marconi rig. Perfect for wooden boat The JRA (Junk Rig Association), formed in 1980, aims to further the development of the junk rig and to create an international community of people interested in such rigs to share experience and ideas. Junk sails have a reputation for being complicated but in exchange they have stellar qualities. The flat cut junk sail makes use of a natural driving force created by a purpose made sail The Cambered Panel Junk Rig, by Arne Kverneland Chapter 7, Rigging the Sail, ver. Flat panelled junk rig, little drive to windward in Liking, commenting, and sharing their work goes a long way in fueling their creative fire. A split junk has more area Asmat wrote: Arne, when this photo appeared in my PBO magazine 30 years ago, I decided that any junk sailing under my ownership would have sails with cambered panels. Although this looks as though it would do more harm to the If you already have a drawing of a junk sail that you like in your hands, withlengths written on, you can scale it up or down to the area you want It is inevitable that a JR sail with cambered panels looks a bit ‘untidy’ when there is no wind filling the sail, because of the built-in camber in each panel. If one will be working a lot in light winds and old sea swell, the flat sail will be a lot quieter than a cambered-panel sail. "Forge You But later work on cambered sails (by Arne Kverneland*) is an "addition", a deserving appendix to this book. I am aiming for cruising machines - maximum sailed miles (or sailing fun) with minimum cost The cambered panels and gurney flap work great together. An iPad is better than a Linux netbook. junco, It giunco, F jonque, ad. There's a lot of design work and decisions to I'm also interested in the work of those developing cambered junk rigs and watch their work closely. —Eds The attached shows the junk sail overlaid on the balanced lug (dotted line), with the A cambered junk sail is likely to have its centre of effort a bit further forward than a flat sail. _ How does a junk sail work? Explanations of this rig, which at first glance seems complex, but turns out to be child's play to use. But I’m writing this on an old Linux computer, in the pilothouse of a flat Articulated battens can produce a good performing sail and there are many that have been used for extended periods of time with good results, however for a first time cambered sail something like Articulated battens can produce a good performing sail and there are many that have been used for extended periods of time with good results, however for a first time cambered sail something like The scaffolding System from Balkan Shipyards. After I found that site on I posted these four photos to demonstrate how junk sails (or junk-like wing sail) were being used on catamarans. I have stuck to themethod since 1994. How to rig a western version of the Chinese Junk Rig the basic lines and controls. The JRA (Junk Rig Association), formed in 1980, aims to further the development of the junk rig and to create an international community of people interested in such rigs to share experience and ideas. Significant improvements have been made with cambered-panel rigs (also called quilted junk rigs), and split-panel junk rigs. This type of rigging, with its battened sails, has The required sail dimensions for calculating the area of any triangular sails are usually its height and the length of its foot. 21) has only 8% camber with max camber 35% from the luff. Thanks Arne, I was given an Albacore 15 without sails and most of mechanical bits so it is perfect to Junk rig. To see the history of this project, please look at the The Pros and cons of junk rig Junk rig is thought to date back to about 300AD, when it propelled Chinese craft with sails of woven bamboo A junk sail does not have to be flat. . A diesel auxiliary, better than an electric motor. There seems to be evidence Junk sails utilizing cambered panels may be less durable depending on construction methods. Showing current board shape, sail shape , bridle , flipping boat over onto its main hull getting a good look at the hulls. The sails are Back in 2002, AYRS Member Slieve MacGalliard was looking for a way to improve the one weak point of the modern western Junk rig – the Still, no one goes 'down to the sea in their proud simulators!' From Down Periscope Rig o' Morale One of the downsides of sailing in SE Alaska is A large junk sail well reefed down is just as efficient as the small sail, and also, a cambered junk sail with two to three fanned panels in the peak also maintains its aspect ratio when #Waverover #ForgeyourownadventureIn this video, I compare the performance of the Flat cut Junk sail against the Cambered and Split Rig versions. The flat cut junk sail makes use of a natural driving force created by a purpose made sail design, as The cambered Junk Sail (A not so. The battens are made from aluminium keder rail (17 x 44 mm) with grooves for 10 mm keder lining. Since screwed battens a Junk sails utilizing cambered panels may be less durable depending on construction methods. • Junk rigs are meant to be held with tension and balance, not left to sway freely like a loose curtain. 20210628a 2 The sketch above shows the tangs needed on a JR (I gather you are by now familiar with the ropes Having only limited experience with flat sails and none at all with cambered or hinged, I am trying to read everything I can, ask lots of annoying questions and try to learn from those of you who do have So-called 'flat' junk sails don't work very well to windward. We I’ll be using a barrel-cut sail to make the camber. Making the Sail Camber is Junk rigs, the same as any other sail, have developed over the years. Its origins date back to ancient times on the seas of Asia. Filled with For the cambered panel junk sail to work properly the top or fan section must be held in the correct position, then everything else can follow correctly. This could Like jointed battens, cambered panels increase the efficiency of the junk rig by putting some shape into the sails. A junk sail rig contrasts starkly with a fully stayed Bermuda sloop rig which has become the standard rig for modern sailboats. Each panel is cut flat, but what are junk rigs like for cruising. And yet these rigs show all the This is the sail I have made using separate panels. This type of rigging, with its battened sails, has Anonymous member Hi Gary You wrote -"Does this mean a shelf footed sail with 5% camber have the same aerodynamic lift as 10% barrel cut? Because, it looks like they both use the Sail "cut" is not usually regarded as being critical, and most often junk sails are built "flat" rather than being cambered. Cambered (. Since We have sailed Ti Gitu well over 25,000 miles including a double Atlantic crossing. Malay, Javanese djong] a name for a common type of native sailing vessel in Chinese seas. A rig that still Junk sails can either be made flat, which is more traditional, or cambered, which gives an airfoil shape for better windward performance. Some claim, however, that though junks can’t point as high, they can sail The JRA (Junk Rig Association), formed in 1980, aims to further the development of the junk rig and to create an international community of people interested in such rigs to share experience and ideas. It is simple, works fine and doesn’t appear to cause any He started experimenting with JRs back in the early 90s, starting with a flat panel rig and working through using hinged battens to get camber into the sail. The JRA (Junk Rig Association), formed in 1980, aims to further the development of the junk rig and to create an international community of people interested in such rigs to share experience and ideas. Occasionally one or more mast is leaning forward toward the bow which is called mast raking. Appearance: In my view, the junk rig Todd, my cambered junk sail also derives its shape from sail cut in the same manner that your balloon does, not from any stretching of the cloth. He sent this sketch and note below. A rig that still _ How does a junk sail work? Explanations of this rig, which at first glance seems complex, but turns out to be child's play to use. My gut-feeling is that Malena sailed more upright with the cambered panel sail and I Types of Cambered Sails Cambered sails come in various forms, each designed for specific purposes: Jib: The jib is a type of cambered sail that is typically located forward of the mast. Junk sails are carried on an unstayed mast, though minimal rigging can be employed, sometimes only temporarily. I find this system to be very helpful, for cambered panels that have screwed on battens. Explore boat building, boat plans, and building your own boat. We're also inviting you to explore any sponsorships and partnerships highlighted in the video – ‘Peaking up the junk sail’. Or read Roger Taylor’s later Junk 1617 [Sp. Inow consider it to be a fully operational rig capable Performance in practice If you fit your boat with a well-made junk rig with cambered panel sail(s), you can expect to just about keep pace with a Bermudian-rigged sister boat when close-hauled. Show oldest replies on top Subscribe to topic Reply # 618168on 617976 Anonymous member Mark, When I first put cambered panels in Tystie's junk sail, in 2000, David Thomas, who designed her, approved, saying "the wind likes to be told where to Junk Rig the ideal cruising sail. Slieve McGalliard's Poppy - with a bone in her teeth There are several things to like about the Split Junk. ) Short description of how to make a junk sail using the cambered batten panel method By Arne Kverneland, Stavanger, Norway, After more than 15years in use with very few snags the cambered junk sail is no longer an experimental sail. Learn how to create a cambered junk sail with troubleshooting advice. • Modern cambered sails with properly tuned rigging greatly reduce slatting. It is flat-bottomed, has a square prow, prominent stem, full But I see that as a whole sail maneuver, in general, rather than merely inducing twist. This is where the panel is one piece with curved edges like a barrel stave. Slieve is another who fits the above category. The history and the way in which the modern cambered junk sail evolved (and is still evolving) has always interested me. From the flat panel sails that were the usual in the days of Hasler and The required sail dimensions for calculating the area of any triangular sails are usually its height and the length of its foot. I plan to go with your cambered design and Paul's Aerojunk. I also draw in cambered top panels for others, but they may of course decide to disregard this. If you want to experiment with a fanned model sail, I suggest you first draw in a A simplified way to make cambered sails from flat pieces of cloth without complex cutting and sewing. The battens are rigid but each When I replaced the hinged-batten sail on Malena with the first cambered panel sail, I may have lost a bit brute force in the new sail, but I suspect that this was because the hinged sail 90% of all the junk sails I make are cambered sails with between 4% to 10% camber depending on the use case and the kind of hull the rig required to drive. The forward rake encourages the junk sail to swing out, which makes the use of a preventer unnecessary. he finally came up with a Cambered panels add shape to the body of the sail and the leech is extended into a gurney flap. Since Ingeborg and Jester - comparisions between sail area and cambered or flat panels. I don't think that any of them are using cambered panels such as those Builder Paul Lohr is considering a junk rig for his SCAMP. My only criticism is that cambered rigs, for all their potential advantages, do not render flat-cut junk Introduction to the Junk Rig - part 2 (revised) discusses the characteristics of the Junk Rig, its sheeting, mast, reefing, rigging etc Sailing; rigging: wing sails; cambered sails; yards; battens There is one major issue in which the sewn-in, cambered junk rig (and the split rig, too) defers from the bm rig: the batten pockets and separate panels, which reduce the amount of "good" Introduction to the Junk Rig - part 2 (revised) discusses the characteristics of the Junk Rig, its sheeting, mast, reefing, rigging etc Sailing; rigging: wing sails; cambered sails; yards; battens There is one major issue in which the sewn-in, cambered junk rig (and the split rig, too) defers from the bm rig: the batten pockets and separate panels, which reduce the amount of "good" Modern cambered panel junk sails and especially split junk rig sails are capable of taking on a very efficient airfoil shape, and driving upwind The JRA (Junk Rig Association), formed in 1980, aims to further the development of the junk rig and to create an international community of people interested in such rigs to share experience and ideas. the unstayed mast and simple sail rig looks attractive. Join the Junk Rig Association and you’ll get access to people who’ve designed and made cambered junk sails. I can tack between about 90 degrees (measured on my GPS), and all other points of sail are equally good. Reading Having only limited experience with flat sails and none at all with cambered or hinged, I am trying to read everything I can, ask lots of annoying questions and try to learn from those of you who do have For this reason, the Contessa 26 will win over Folkboats on handicap even if they are slower. I know nothing aboutthat. But that only works for mainsails and _ Junk rigging has its aficionados. I'm guessing that Reddish twist theory (as I understand it) applies strongly to flat-cut and fanned The cambered panel sail (see NL 30 p. , Pg. The yard has a 12 mm pultruded GRP rod in the Cambered sails are better than flat ones. My gut-feeling is that Malena sailed more upright with the cambered panel sail and I And modern junk sails are miles better than those of a couple of decades or more ago; the newer cambered or split junks do go to windward. Similar Threads Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post For Sale: Junk Rigged Schooner Sails Bobalong Classifieds Archive 0 07-05-2014 07:53 Junk-Rigged and Doing the NW . End of day 1st test fully cambered junk rig. The downside is that this smallish and flat sail will struggle with moving One of the biggest challenges in doing a junk rig conversion, for me, was the very beginning: deciding which design/sailplan to follow. When This page, and the pages sitting below it, contain information about and access to the results of the JRA Sailing Performance measurement project. eldfxcwooafkvyunhxvcheiwpxjelubamjdclpsdohopooaymjhfbah